What Ubuntu Server *could* be

Friday March 20th, 2009
Ubuntu

I'm glad Thierry started this discussion. About six months ago when we were first beginning to talk about what to do in Jaunty, I sat down and wrote a bunch of notes that I meant to turn into a blog post, but it never made it farther than an e-mail to a few people, but now that we're sharing visions, I thought I'd post it.

Disclaimer: These are simply notes I wrote for myself. They're not the outcome of a discussion, it's not a blessed strategy.. They're just my notes.

What is our profile? What offsets us from the others?

If I'm brutally honest, I must admit that when I explain Ubuntu server to people, it very often ends up something like: "Debian with a sane, predictable release schedule. We take a snapshot of Debian at some point, and apply some polish and tender loving, and we ship it." (Note: I wrote these notes 6 months ago, and this part is not quite true anymore, but let's just forget that for a little bit.)

Sure, we also add a few gadgets, gizmos, and widgets, but the type of user who gets won over by that sort of thing alone is probably not the kind of user we're really interested in (in part because they're transient... If another distro comes up with another gizmo they suddenly can't live without, they'll be out of here in no time).

We need some kind of profile. We need to do something differently from others. Offer a different concept. Right now, we're trying to the others at their game. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's a veritable David vs. Goliath.

Debian provides us with a technically strong, dependable base, but Debian is a solution to a problem we're not trying to solve.

Ubuntu on the desktop took off with a bang with the Warty Warthog release.. It was an almost instant success. Why? Because it solved the problems everyone was facing:

  • Easy to install
    • The install process was boiled down to as few questions as we could possibly get away with, in part by leaving out a lot of advanced options.
  • Lots of common hardware supported
    • Even restricted drivers. The idea was that a software stack consisting of all free software with a single binary blob to enable a wifi card or a graphics adapter is better than a software stack of all non-free software. For most users, these were (and are still) the only two viable choices.
  • A wide selection of software was pre-installed and ready to go.
    • All you needed to do was look around in the menus and you found the software you needed to get most of your work done. No need to look on the internet for "what software do you use instead of Word/Internet Explorer/MSN Messenger/Outlook on Linux?"

Essentially, it was all about "making the best of free software available".

Now, is "making it available" still a problem on servers? Yes! Sure, there's lots of stuff we can't do with an Ubuntu Server, but what if we focus on what you *can* do, and make that very, very available in a way that's true to our UNIX heritage?

What would that require?

  • Easy to install
    • What are the common stumbling points for the installation process?
      • Example: Partitioning is difficult. You usually only get the one chance to get it right, and if it's your first linux system, you won't have a clue.
  • How can we fix them?
    • Example: Do their partitioning for them?
      • In ways that don't limit our choices later on?
        • Example: Always make the disk a raid member where the raid set only has that one member. That way, it's easier to add another member later.
        • Example: Always do LVM. Provide tools to easily move parts of the filesystem to a newly created logical volume (creating the lv and mkfs it in the process).
  • Lots of common hardware supported.
    • What server class hardware out there is unsupported?
    • Do we need to create a restricted driver set for servers?
  • A wide selection of software pre-installed and ready to go.
    • Perhaps not actually pre-installing them, but making sure that people are using "the right selection" of software some other way, perhas by means of:
      • Better documentation
        • I've never read a book about Linux system administration and not thought that they were doing it all wrong. This is symptomatic: IMO, we're quite good at pointing out when people are doing things wrong, but we fail to go out and define the One True Way[tm] to do things. Personally, I'm afraid I'll make a mistake and people will wind up at a dead end, because there's something, I've overlooked.
  • Much better integration
    • Again, this stems from our failure to go out and define the One True Way[tm] of setting up our services and integrate them. This is something we inherited from Debian. I believe it needs to stop right now. Take dovecot, for instance.. I don't expect any half serious deployment of dovecot to use the userdb and passdb backends that its configured to use by default, yet we leave the defaults that way. Why? Because Debian does it. Why do they do it? Because they're trying to solve a different problem than we are. They want to provide a platform that unbiased does everything for the relatively few people who know how to drive it. This is noble enough, but to dovecot, it means that it's only as enterprise ready as the sysadmin can manage to set it up. We need to define what an Ubuntu based enterprise environment looks like and offer that in a packaged form for easy deployment. The benefits are numerous:
      • Knowing that a company uses an Ubuntu based network infrastructure currently tells you nothing. Defining these best practices will provide a baseline, that's recognisable by Ubuntu admins everywhere.
      • Hiring is easier (for companies looking for Ubuntu sysadmins). If an admin has Ubuntu experience there's now a chance that he'll actually be able to apply his knowledge directly.
      • Support is much easier when you can actually make assumptions about what people are using as their directory server, and how everything speaks together, because *we* defined it.
      • It paves the way for an Ubuntu System Administration certification.
    • Etc.

What we should offer is:

  • Enterprise readiness out of the box.
    • Well defined interfaces (contracts, if you will) between components.
      • Example: If we were to decide that Ubuntu Server uses an ldap backend for storing mail aliases, we'd clearly document the exact query that would be run to fetch that info. If a user for whatever reason needed to extend the ldap schema, he's allowed to do so and can expect everything to keep working as long as that query gives the same result. Likewise, the LDAP DIT will also be clearly documented, so that the user is allowed to add custom frontends.
      • These contracts follow our freeze process. I think beta freeze would be an appropriate time to lock these down.
    • Simple tools (akin to the ones we already have) to manage these things. Home users or small businesses shouldn't suffer because we decided to change the way things work.
      • E.g. if we decide to install an LDAP server and use that from nss and pam instead of passwd/shadow on each and every Ubuntu Server installation, adduser and such should keep working as it always has).

Sorry if it's a bit of a mess, but as you know, perfect is the enemy of good enough.

Posted by Søren Hansen in Ubuntu, PlanetUbuntu, and PlanetOpensourceDk at 21:11. 46 comments.

Marius Gedminas says:

I like what I hear here.

Ubuntu became an instant success on the desktop because it added that missing 10% of polish on top of the existing components.

And we all know that while the first 90% of work take 90% of the time, the remaining 10% of work take another 90% of the time.

Jonas says:

"Example: Partitioning is difficult. You usually only get the one chance to get it right, and if it's your first linux system, you won't have a clue."

Is this really a problem for a server installation? Not only because of that example, but overall? Honestly.

Maybe the server-admins you know are different to the ones I know, but NONE of those I know would dream of putting a server online unless they know the strengths and weaknesses of the OS in question, not to mention of how to install and maintain the server in question.

Don't get me wrong: I'm all for making a server-install as painless as possible but the fact remains: if you want/need a server, you need to know more than if you want a desktop. And if you don't know how Linux works (or Debian/Ubuntu works if you want to be more specific) you shouldn't be running a server in the first place.

The opposite is equally true of course. If you don't know how a Windows server work, you shouldn't be running one.

My point is: I don't think how easy it is to install a server is a major selling point for server-admins (and especially since you hopefully only install it once and then just updates the software as needed). They're more interested in scalability, security, and uptimes.

Soren says:

Jonas, there's little point in keeping things difficult that could be easy.

Also, it /is/ a very real problem. Choosing the right disk layout can be difficult, and if you go the traditional route of using partitions, you only get one chance of getting it right (unless you're the type who finds reinstalls acceptable). It really is pointelessly difficult to get right the first time. LVM gives you a lot of flexibility, and RAID by default also adds significant convenience at virtually no cost.

Besides, even server users start out as novices, and if the changes we make and the tools we provide are designed well enough, they'll be useful to experts as well as novices.

Jo-Erlend Schinstad says:

This is an interesting discussion. I've been thinking about this for quite some time and there is no doubt in my mind that this could be a hit. One type of stack I personally would love, is the following;

  • LDAP for centralized user management and shared contacts.
  • CalDAV server for shared calendars and tasks. (This needs to be addressed as a standalone service too, btw)
  • SyncML server for syncing with mobile devices, etc.
  • E-mail.
  • LAMP, possibly with an administration webapp preinstalled?
  • SSH

I think that with a good default install of thise services, and sane default configs, it would be very useful. Of thiese things, setting up CalDAVd is the most painful by far.

Jonas says:

"Jonas, there's little point in keeping things difficult that could be easy."

I agree with that. And I also agree that LVM and RAID should be used whenever possible. No argument there. There's also no disagreement that if the tools are designed well enough they would be useful to experts as well as novices (and reinstalls are only "acceptable" when something has been rooted).

However, I think the focus should NOT be on making the initial install as easy as possible. Important, yes, certainly. I just happen to think that as far as servers go, the initial installation is irrelevant in the long run.

If I had to choose, I'd rather choose a harder-to-install server but keeps going and going over one that is easier to install.

Ideally, of course, the two should be combined. But even if it easier, there is no substitute for actually knowing what you're doing. Whether it is disk layout, bind, apache, NIS, windows/*ix integration, NFS, or whatever: in my experience, the ones that are best at accomplishing X are the ones that do not rely on aids to get the job done.

A mentor of mine once said (not too long ago):"If you want to be able to run a server reliably, you need to master both the easy parts as well as the hard ones. There are no shortcuts", and I think there's a lot of truth in that (no matter what OS the server is running).

I think this is more of a documentation/training problem rather than a technical one.

Mark says:

So, uh, when can Debian expect you to send your enhancements back?

Ante says:

Mark - so, you expect us to do - what exactly? Knock on the doors of Debian developers? I don't get it. What do you want us to do? Are you aware of patches.ubuntu.com? Where are CentOS patches for RedHat?

Are you really expecting us to send a mail for every change we create? Have you asked Debian developers do they really want that?

Tom says:

Wow.

Formatting these comments is hard. They hurt my eyes!

Elmo says:

I see the relationship between Debian and Ubuntu quite like the one between Red Hat and Fedora. Debian makes stable releases that have older but well-tested packages. Ubuntu offers snapshots of Debian's unstable development tree -- newer packages that are not very well tested. Like Red Hat, Debian is well-suited for enterprise desktops and servers. And like Fedora, Ubuntu offers a nice Gnome desktop for home users who want to try new stuff, but it's not really suitable for servers.

Joel says:

Sorry elmo - you get an E for effort, but you're way off. ubuntu LTS is extremely solid and stable, perfectly suitable for server use - I know, I'm a happy admin of servers which have been migrated from redhat and suse to ubuntu LTS.

Soren says:

Tom, you're right. I've added Markdown formatting to the comments, so it should be much better now.

jimcooncat says:

My wishlist:

Automatic installation. I'm using network preseeding to install servers and desktops, and it works like a charm. I've got apt-cacher in the mix, and when I install a new machine, it pulls only the updates from the Internet. I keep a custom repository, and have been successful in setting things like /etc/network/interfaces by making a small .deb packages to make these customizations. Setting up and adding to the custom repository is a pain, because I don't understand the tools well enough yet -- especially signing the packages so I don't get security warnings.

Ability to review updates. I'd like a simple way, either through a chroot or virtualization, to subject updates to a vetting process before making it available for installation. Again, repository management tools are needed.

High Availability. Even in a small office, downtime is expensive. I'd like to see packages like drbd-primary and drbd-secondary, where you install each on a different machine, and you have simple redundant storage. Same for essential services like dns, dhcp, internet gateways, font servers, etc.

Guided networking schemes. When setting up a local network, there should be sensible defaults and alternatives to a standardized addressing scheme. IP addresses to use 192.168... or 10.0...? Internal services available at gateway.lan, dns.lan, printers.lan?

File-based LAN configuration. The underpinnings of configuration could be based on files, which can be altered and administered through custom .debs. A database-driven front-end could be used to help define the network, which spews out custom .debs to be distributed through the dpkg updating already in place. If you want to migrate to LDAP or some other "registry" type scheme, have it read from existing files like dnsmasq reads /etc/hosts as a starting point. Don't force complexity on the network, offer it as alternatives to a simple, robust default.

tom85 says:

imho the most important thing would be a modular web interface where all the services can be easily enabled/disabled and configured.

not having the need to do all those things via ssh really helps people who are new to linux and maybe only want to setup a home server.

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